Ranga The rule of law has never applied to our caste and we have subjected to the whim of the higher castes, our women were raped and children abused at the will those above us. Jalwan you need to broaden your vocabulary and spelling all I am saying is that a lot of the surnames listed at the top of this page are not implicitly chamar names.. therefore should not be listed as such. digital photographic camera, MP3 person and all other USB I love guru nanak ji quote before becoming a Muslim, a sikh, a Hindus or a Christian lets become a human first. The dirty dogs were able to drink water from pools used by the higher castes but the dalit were denied access to these pools for fear of polluting the pools. Yes chamars do talk about caste a LOT, but with very good reason. Gande rehte hoo nahate nahi hoo. Hey can I use this name as my last surename.???? In MAHARASHTRA sirnames of chamar:- Out of 100 the first talented person is Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. Jai Gurudev! Each caste has its sphere of influence . not true at all, Ohh virk jattan da got aa chamara da nii ess lai virk got ktto apni site cho , Sahi aa praa ena ne ta sandhu v chamar bnaa tee. Ingle. are you fucking kidding me, ALSO NOT CHAMAR, 22 JI SADDDDIIIIII SHANNNNN Hai vakhriiiiii sc/st zindabad baba sahab ne aj hume yaha paucha diya varna humari itini kaha pechan thi. Caste anti national. 20 chamar surnames are widely distributed in majha and doaba of Punjab. I knew a guy whose last name was Chahal and I always thought that he is a Punjabi Jutt . 5 Finally there are those who worship some hindu deity and will be call themselves as hindus. Brahmins are evil and hence why our Sikh bhagats and gurus had nothing to do with people like you. It is the 15% who control everything, so why blame the poor 85%, who are devoid or power and control. think of this too before gabbing. In SC n higher caste also. Bhagat Ravidas Ji knew where his bani was going to be compiled and installed into, THE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI.. Their are 15 Bhagats in GGSJ from all castes and yet they dont make a issue like Ravidassias are making. I agree with you 100% and there is nothing wrong with you following your family traditions, I think most people here do. An intelligent man arguing with a fool makes the intelligent man a bigger fool. Give respect, diserve respect. Upashna Barve. In India everyone is now treated more or less equally and the caste system is not as dominant as it used to be. They fought well but they lost. We are all human beings and there is no caste as such it is just occupation. These holy works of literature were manufactured by Brahmins to explain the God given Brahminical system they had engineered and inculcated it into the psyche of the Indian mind so that even today they believe in it and practise it. Question is not against the reservation but question is the SC/ST/OBC candidate who got selected in top job having salary/package more than 10lack than what facility/environment they can not provide to their children which other General Caste children of all including poor got but SC/ST/OBC all officer/rich family children still getting resrvation. Neha, you cant change the system and peoples mindset. They started a revolution to help the low castes to break away the shakles of the caste sytem. People like you give me hope that not everyone in this world is bad. I am a jatt. Not our fault you Chamars are too ashamed to take pride in the fact that youre Chamars. Nobody listens to you anymore. A prime example of this is done by Mr Amarjit Mall on YouTube who is the biggest racist and politician and sh*t stirrer. You being a jatt explains why you are defending the caste system. The Jatavs are an endogamous caste of the Chamar, or leather worker, category of castes in India.Because of the polluting occupation of leather worker they rank among the Untouchable castes close to the bottom of India's caste hierarchy. ke schedule ya notification se nayi caste banayi gayi Hamare Dharam ke hisab se tumko koi Jaat nahi di gayi.. isliye ab rona band ker.. Haryana mein Rajput Az bi 2017 mein Chamaro ko Marriage mein Ghode pe nahi baithne deta .. usko pass jitena marzi paisa ho.. kyon ki wo unko Hindu nahi mante ! Dont swear makes your look stupid. be proud even if u are chamars i am also but justice is equal for all and atrocity on general by dalits should be given same strict punishment as atrocity by general on dlaits are given . They can argue a Jat by saying them Jat but if someone says them Chamar then they object to it. Castism in Indian society is a hard fact and we have to live within it. reply, Jassal, virk and Walia are not chamar last names. But i respect ravidasia community bcz these days it is progressive . In the Uk mixed marriages are on the rise amonst Indians because the younsters do not like the caste system being imposed on them. Basod. Klair surname is a Jatt surname and does not belong to any community other than Sache Pasha himself ! We are a part of that struggle, you just need to decide whether you are too. If you are urged to say jat again you are betraying the your religion and the Gurus who died for you. Take SANDHU out of this publishing cause its not good. with an LCD tv. Jai Hind, Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. chamar caste surnames list in up. Some people of chamar caste have surname RAVIDAS or RABIDAS. Im from a gc background. The rule of law has never applied to our caste and we have been subjected to the whim of the higher castes, our women were raped and children abused at the will of those above us. Lode iss me to sab gulut likhi hai Soni, dhaiya , chawwla yay chamar kab t ho gay, Abe chamar khatri surname kyu dal rha is list mein. many dalit people sacrifice their lives for sikh religion not only jatts. Jatav. Dont worry the drug of truth will irritate you for bit for refusing to accept the truth because you are sick and blind. A lot of Chamar names are same as Brahman and Jats. It is one of the common surnames among Indian Brahmins. So what can we dofirstly never ever even think you are Chamar (you are less, inferior) Do not get into this trap. I am one among them, many times i keep mum on the issue of castes. THERE ARE TWO REGIMENTS NAMED CHAMAR REGIMENT AND MAHAR REGIMENT. we are in NJ, USA. I believe exactly the same- there is no caste. This comment is illegal to post. Religious and social ceremonies practised in poor societies and tribals are different from claimed to be of Hindus. Karra has been added to the list. For other castes: we are not against any body. We all should work and propagate to reclaim lost boundaries falling within these great rivers. Anyone believing in caste system are simply slaves to Brahmins. You should be proud to be a member of this community. Not too difficult to comprehend is it??? jag bain please broden mind dasrat / keikai gotra was same also that of kunti n pandu as well . You ignorant woman! Ohhhhhh you silly chumars! Leave him alone. If all chamars took Amrit we would be equals. brrruuuaaahhhhhhh. Even their Guru will not forgive them for deceiving others. When I was growing up I thought surnames were only for identification. We need to move into a modern world and put these man made traditionsor whatever you call them to bed. He was twelfth guru in the Namdhari Sikh lineage and first one to start non coorpration and boycott of British goods and services as a political tool. We should try to understand our Sikh history what our Sikh Bhagats and Sikj Gurus did for equality and the Han race. If you follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji then you are a Sikh. 5 Kler, Please add few more as Punia, Daroch, Atwal, Nalwati, Chunbuk, Chahal, Chalia, Berwal, Bodwal, Tanwar. they should come to forward now the time has been changed . wakil extortion ka dhanda khol kar baitha he . mothers of mahabhata biyash were ganga n satyawati jala/mala/kevat nit was person from same caste who was ferry man of ramchander . I need an urgent help, please help me so we can help to make things better for future. mode just isnt its smartest. It is also proposed to get marriages of economically incapacitated marriageable boys and girls of Dalit society with the cooperation of the society. My paternal side is Maratha and my Great grandmother was an Afghan Pashtun Sikh, My grandmother belongs to Jaat heritage from Gill tribe and my biological mother is Bedi, from khatri tribe. Manu in his Laws of Manu clearly says these low castes must be kept divided and forced to do their ancesteral occupations otherwise they will destroy the system. My sole belief is treat others how you expect to be treated. Under sikh rule Mazabhi won battle of Afghanistan .Since they belong to lower caste the glory never been taught to new generation . Why are people highlighting proudness of a Vedic system which suppresses them as people. I have heard and read some comments made by some jatts that the chamars are moolighting jatt surnames so as to pass as jatts. Taking birth in a certain caste is nobodys control. Please delete it. u may not have created this. Castes should become irrelevant in this transition. population as at tJiBn atlon of POpufo 0 the last census of the Scheduled Castes or, as the case may be, of Scheduled You should not judge a human being from where they are born but judge by the good they have done while on earth. sikhon ka blla ho jaga, Bhaskar grovar/gure mehra chahal lamba taank bhi chamar surname h mere relative or dost h, add poonia,meharda,bairwal,barupal,rolan,rathi,bhatia,parihar,chouhan,suda,birat,,gunpal,kataria,bhatti,godha,dhania,sheemar,joiya,baror(from brar),jakhu(jakhar),kantia,mangliya,duggal,chopra,other uncounted, TODAY THE WORD CHAMAR IS NOT A WORD OF SHAME BUT A WORD OF FAME AND PROUD .ITS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO AII OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBER PLEASE DO NOT HESISTATE TO DISCLOSE YOUR CASTE. plus a USB port to be able to connect the thumb push, Sale chutie sab galat galat likha pdha h;>, iam from madiga caste in andhra pradesh.whether madiga caste is chamar caste, () , None of caste hve same sunames or same ancestory.some r aryan some r scythian n large r dravdian.lower caste lke chamar,mazbai n chura used higher caste surnams bcz they dont hve surnames.they live under slavery of higher castes who didnt let them to live human life.now some lower caste got educated n start doing jobs n move to other countries.they thought this is time to hide background. Fact is a fact and truth is truth. We only need look at vienna to realise the extents they are willing to go. But Indias maximum media does not show or publish this news. !Thank you! Chamar - A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. The truth is the truth. . Ricky you need to get your facts right by doing research as to why this has happened. We never took any action against India because we love over country and we are original resident of India. Parvathamma, C. (1989), Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads, Ashish Publishing House, Delhi. how to make a chi ball visible for beginners Keagy's Best Price Plumbing Achank gir ke mar gayee. . No way on this earth .You use by default.I also notice certain Khatri and Brahmin names been passed off as also being chamar names.Using them by default.Fraud .No law against it and nobody can stop you but its false pretences.Its a given that you will deny this and be abusive .Listen..India treated everybody the same.No one got special treatment .In the case of Punjab and Jats,they are not responsible for what happened to you so take your blame elsewhere. plz add Singhwaiya Gotra also. All these power structures they RESERVED for themselves. please enter this gottar also. Vahivancha Charan-Gadhavi of Harijan Vankar and Chamar: 75: 73: Valand Nayi and Barbar (Hindu) Hajam (Muslim) Khalipha (Muslim) 76 76 76 76 76: 74: Vankar Sadhu: 77: 75: Vansfoda Vansfodia or Vanza: 78 78: 76: . Director, Developing Caste Welfare Block No. Checked many documents and that we have is names, my father: Ram Dass Dhusia is a caste in India, subcaste associated with Chamars, Kureel, Ahirwar, Jhusia or Jatav. It is very unfortunate that people from reserved caste now treat reservation as a trump card and neglect studies. Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen, STUPIDS As SHRI GURUGRANTH SAHIB JIsay tha there is no caste in sikhism. . Dr. B.R. I do like your literal analogy in your last sentence. Understood. Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen You are a minoroty, majority Chamar are natural born Sikhs. : dhang ka ipc nhi samajhta police ko at apne aap ko sahab bulate he. . One is Caste Watch UK: http://www.castewatchuk.org/ A few Rajput gotras are also found in Chamar community which is the result of intermixing of some Rajput clans with lower castes to save themselves from the onslaught of Muslim invaders. max. a Sikh but not practising like you. : so search about yourself and proud on yourself. #1. Hello, i am very glad to see this site. He is not really a sikh like you and me but but a hindu who parades himself as a charlalan sikh. in up mostly chamars use Dohare, Gautam, chaudhary, Bharti. Let me tell you something today belonging to a caste is totally irrelevant because these castes were made to organize the society and run the economy by sticking people to a certain profession. DAS , Someone wrote so well on the equality of humans, sharing with chamar brothers . tum bhikari ho sale bheekh hi magna aata h tumhe .kam se kam hum log kisi se beekha manng kar to nahi khate tum log jaise. Behan Ke yaar agar ek baap ka hai to apna pta de and Kaam bta kaya karna hai Tu.. Dekhta hoon kitni akali hai tujhmein.. my name is Gourav Kamal. Tandle. Im pretty sure what they meant is not to ever think of yourself superior to someone else based on caste and always treat them like a brother. Sandhu Even Ramayan was written by valmiki who belong to fisher family. Do some research. I will continue another timesorry. Iam Sanjay Kumar @ Rajesh Das from jharkhand, India. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. And todays farmers were only Siris or agricultural labourers who used to work on the land of landlords or jagirdaars who used to be Mughals , rajputs or other ruling clans . and its true people of other cast dont react in the same way as we do. I know a guy in US who was using Chahal & I though he is jutt though other Sikh guy use to smile when I would talk to this Chahal .. finally came to know that he was Chamar why he said he is Jutt .. by abusing other cast wont get you anywhere ! do you know about Baba Ram Singh Ji. devadasis ended to be considered dalits, some end up in prostitution. ye sochna chahiye vo chamar hai . In addition to the above other reasons for names cutting across castes are: 1. Isnt it better to change ourselves still staying in the guidance of our Bhagats, Gurus and GGSJ.. Chamars who have adopted the weaving profession and abandoned tanning and leathercraft, identify themselves as Julaha Chamar. This system does not exist in Europe and as a result people are more free and there is less discrimination. Bhind and Chhatarpur districts. The purpose of books such as Manusmriti, Mahabharta and Ramayan was to keep the low castes oppresses in perpetuity and so that they would never rise again to challenge the Brahmins and the Brahminical system. They also joined the ranks of chamars or other castes. He gave his teaching to the gurus. Matter of fact all the castes except Brahmin and Khatries, rest of them have the same roots, That is why you find the same last names in the so called lower castes including the Jatts. ?..PLZ DO REPLY ITS REALLY URGENT. Jai Guru Ravidas. i am confused. (barara) l belongs to a chamar family and i am proud for it. Jai Hind. For example many people think that Jatts treat lower castes in a bad manner which is not true. hamarae caste s belong krtae h. hmnae dunia ko ek dharam dia h.. bhangi jaati apne ko chamar se upar manti h, Can you please tell us where is raju gout jathere.its urgent. me ajj savere hi apni mum to es bare pu6ya te meri mum ne mennu dasya ki asi suryavanshi clan to relate krde a jinha di kai branches nu pind to nikad ditta c, nale ohna ne menu eh v dasya k mere poorvaja ne apne desh nikala hon to bad ravidass g di sharan lyi c jis krke ohh baadch chamara de naa to jannan lgge. CC: Dear fellow mates, no need to be decent with retards like Sh. The 2011 Census of India for Uttar Pradesh combined the Chamar, Dhusia, Jhusia, Jatava Scheduled Caste communities and returned a population of 22,496,047. ", "I will be the best PM and Mayawati is my chosen heir", "SC Commission Asks Defence Secretary Why 'Chamar Regiment' Shouldn't be reinstated", "A Bibliographic Essay on Hindu and Christian Dalit Religiosity", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chamar&oldid=1142865461. The ugly head of caste will do no good for anybody . You are the one who is ignorant, backward, with dirty mind and hypocrite. Surnames have nothing to do with castes. Ancient books on Indian culture, religion do not have a mention of the word HINDU. Please siprea gotr sati where place ad address pls kisi ko is ke vare me kush pta chle tu plz snd me . But Indias maximum media does not show or publish this news. Thanks for contributing. We should not follow people, people make mistakes, people discriminate on caste, colour, creed and religion, but we should be better than that. y sambuk sudra rishi was killed by cruel rama . Read Manusimriti. No one is high or low, his behaviour/actions make so.His mother can tell who is he as manusmarti confirms mother brahmin/sudra father issue be chandal whoose services were rana/rani Harischand/tara. sure name hatane se kuch nhi hoga. We all now need to work to eradicate the system in its entirety. [14], By the late 19th century, the Chamars began rewriting their caste histories, claiming Kshatriya descent. We should all stand-up to oppression. A lot of chamars from Haryana are Grow. If I was stupid and literate like this Prick I would say jatt stole surnames of chamar but I dont wanna drop to this idiots level. Abe salo.badi jaat waletumko kis baat pe ghamand haijaat ko niche girane wale tum hote kon hojaat kaam se nehi naam se jana jata hai samjeunchi jaat waleapni soch badlo.. shame shame. Kataria Parivaar Jathere where village in punjab anybody tell me plzzz. PRASRAM FOUGHT WIH SHANTNU STEP GREAT GRAND FATHER OF ARJUN-BROTHER INLAW OF KRISN REBUKED LAXMAN BROTHER OF RAM (SAME AGE) .BHARTIY SANSKRITI 6th 7th 8th incarnationS OF GOD MEET SIMULTNIOUSLY PARASRAM RAM KRISHN HERE . District officers have been ordered to issue Caste Certificate to the families of those belonging to these 17 castes. Historically subject to untouchability, they were traditionally outside the traditional society ritual ranking system of caste known as Varna. So be careful what you say my friend you are dealing with a whole new breed of martial chamars. Are you serious or are you taking the piss? I would love to see more chamar songs in the mainstream media because all you see is jatt this and jatt that. gotra /surname jalwan=jalwana=jalwani = jalwania=jalwaniya=jalan=jalani = jala=makwana=jalla malla=jhalwan=jhalawan = jalawan=jale jalia=jaliya FOUND IN sc=bc=genral IN north/south/east /west IN india ,pakistan ,afganitan ,lebnon,syria,soudi arabia, england, frans, usa N SO ON IN hinduS /sikhS /cristianS /muslimS THEY ARE all brothers origin same and equal . Manister of state Ashu ji. I personally know some contact of Caste Watch UK and other community member who may be able to support you. And yes if you are so concern about birth control, go join a fucking NGO, why are you wasting your time here! These include: Jassal, kainth, heer, sandhu, bhatti, sahota, sidhu, kalsi, chopra, walia, bhola, johal, virdi, chahal, athwal and more for all I know. Some people say that Guru Nanak Dev Ji and other Gurus are sikh,but they were Hindu!All they worshiped HARI or HAR! It is also proposed to get marriages of economically incapacitated marriageable boys and girls of Dalit society with the cooperation of the society. And I wager they will match and thus related. Special Note:- The said committee works for the upliftment of poor and sick old people, children and women at the social level. I respect your views , why did you use fucking om with that . ja gurudev, U can add Phoondpal also. my email id is sizzlingvivek14@gmail.com. Sharma. So we should be proud of whichever caste were born in and strive hard to do good for our society and motherland. Vijay Sharma pandit, I dont know of any chamar with a brahmin surname. This is the basics you should know and understand. All these selfless services /Sewa are to have a mindset of treating all as equal irrespective of his social status based on money , caste , race etc. Waghmare. worried for gottra/surname/family name . Caste system was so deep rooted in Indian psyche that people from so called high class were not ready to sit along side the so called low castes but in langar all were to be treated as equal and every one had to sit in same row(pangat). Then they say they are a race. , , not at all true. . Baba ji deep singh ji was a sandhu. man is seed woman is earth WHEN made pours ( with air) watered n sun (agni ) from sky after some time WITH 5 TATWAS germination /soul (atman) enters in this unverse in form of plant /bird /annimal who behave in any way of love /hate / abuse /kill UNDER GUNAS-RAJ ,SAT N TAM n according to karmas of past /present again take birth to continue suffering UNLESS LOVE N BHATI. The only way chamars can have the same last name is through mixing, or simple enough, changing them it trick people. : Remember, whether you are Jatt or Chumar or any caste, you follow the same religion, you read the same Book. big up chamzzzzzz, tuhadi pehn di lannnn!!!! mar jao is gall nalu saly waddy sekh, Jattan ne thodi maa nu thokya te tussi hoye aj jattan nu abbu kehna chad ditta tussi Mude. What is in a name that is given to you at birth if you can not use it wisely. , (ST), (SC) (OBC) . YES CHURAS AND CHAMARS ARE MOVING UP IN THE WORLD TOO.HOOORAY FOR YOU GUYS:), yo im a sahota 2 *snap* nd plus sahota, sandhu are JATT so u fukin get ur facts right, Bhatoa (Bhatia), Bishanpal, Maan, Guru, Mitterpal, Gill, Badhan, Ghera, Thanda, Bhauria, par parah mereya . Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. You can confirm by visiting kambojsociety.com. We are all one x, Voice of a sane person. AND STOP BRINGING SIKHISM INTO THIS, cant Jatts be from other religions dumbass? Brahmins , Kashatriyas and Vaishivs did not create anything nor work . tum videsi aarya ho jo yaha aaker rehne lage rahi bat list me names ki wo sabhi sahi . 0081001500006681 AMBEDKAR WAS BORN IN MAHAR REGIMENT MAHOO, WHERE HIS FATHER RAMAJIRAO WAS A SUBEDAR. Sharma is a brahmin subcaste often used by brahmins as surname. te nale hun asi apne aap nu kattar chamar dasde aa. Dabi is inside a Chandervanshi Rajput Clan. When the shudras/untouchables wakes up and revolts against Brahminism/Manuism, Brahminism will end. We are accusing these imbeciles of stealing and lying. So we need a blanket ban on the use of surname. It is a derogatory word given by Muslim invaders to Indians.