The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. Your email address will not be published. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. It was Mr Tates third appeal against his detention since his arrest. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, 'I felt different to the rest of my family - and my mum felt the same': Prince Harry opens up on his 'broken home' upbringing saying parents rowing in front of children 'is not a good idea' - but FAILS to mention William once in 90min toxic trauma chat, DONALD J TRUMP: The world has finally woken to the truth about the Wuhan virus. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. More hairs there. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). Name. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. WoW! Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburgand High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when she was arrested in 1997. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. No explanation given. ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? According to a police affidavit, Rorrer called the Katrinak house in mid-December 1994. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. The feminist in me is, like, hell yeah!: Will men take the male contraceptive pill? I do. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Search it out and check for yourself. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. . . All rights reserved (About Us). Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. Nailed? It might have said no root but could have been wrong. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Phone records dont lie.) State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. One on one? Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. How so? Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Search their Criminal Records, Contact Info, Photos and More 1) Andrew Katrinak's Phone & Current Address, Andrew Katrinak's Phone #, Address & More, Andrew Katrinak's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@gmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@yahoo, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@hotmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@aol, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@outlook. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. This woman was obsessed and jealous. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. Several years ago, Jost's teenage son, Steven, helped Rorrer in her part-time job as a child photographer. Wow. ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. You people are fighting a losing cause! Her mother was married to my uncle. Conflicting versions. Unbloody vehicle. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Jealousy was the motive. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Puny policy. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. What a lame article. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. All Rights Reserved. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. She took out the woman who replaced her. You are absolutely right. (renews at {{format_dollars}}{{start_price}}{{format_cents}}/month + tax). If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. And I have absolutely no sympathy. More Local News to Love Start today for 50% off Expires 3/6/23, Kurt Bresswein | For lehighvalleylive.com, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Thats my life.. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? Your email address will not be published. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! She definitely did it. It was Patricias hair no question. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook.